Agile in India : Interview with Naresh Jain
Naresh Jain is the founder Vice-Chairman of the Agile Software Community of India (ASCI) and the organizer of the Simple Design And Testing Conference (SDTConf). Naresh has help start various Agile User Groups including the Agile Philly User Group and various groups in India. Naresh is an active Open Source committer and enjoys teaching software development courses in Universities. By being a part of the team, Naresh helps software companies embrace agile. Naresh is passionate about building a community of talented and capable software craftsman, the next generation software leaders in India. In recognition of his accomplishments, in 2007 the Agile Alliance awarded Naresh with the Gordon Pask Award for contributions to the Agile Community by establishing Agile User Groups in India and for creating the Simple Design and Testing conference. He has worked on variety of software projects utilizing XP, Scrum and Crystal techniques since 2003. Currently, Naresh Jain is software craftsman working for Directi as Quality and Community Evangelist. In this interview, Naresh talks about his experiences in spreading awareness about Agile and helping companies adopt Agile in India.
agilecollab : Please tell us how were you exposed to Agile?
Naresh Jain : Back in the dark days of my life, I was working as a coder (not programmer) on a big J2EE project. This was for a IT division of a big Bank. We had a really smart Architect sitting in UK who would provide development guidelines. One of his guidelines was, as soon as we finish a feature, we were supposed to write JUnit tests before we check in the code. As soon as any team member would check-in code, he would check out the code on his machine and do a code review (he literally acted as our Continuous integration build server). For those of us who had never written a unit test, this was a boon in disguise to avoid stupid mistakes. As I got used to this approach of writing unit tests after the code was written, I felt I was wasting too much time building the wrong code. My test would give me the feedback that I made a silly assumption. This feedback was great, but I had already spent the time writing the wrong code. My manager always told us, work smarter not harder. So in the search of smarter ways to do the same, I stumbled upon the life changing article “Test Infected“. The whole Test-First approached seemed so much superior than what we were doing. And thus began my journey into the Agile world!
agilecollab : What has been the motivation behind ASCI?
Naresh Jain : Scratch your personal itch! While I saw a clear value in Agile and light-weight methods, there were very few companies in India who actually knew about these methods. Agile was making big news in the west and community based conferences was a growing trend there. In late 2004, Owen Rogers and Manoj Bharadwaj were planning to organize a one day conference in Bangalore similar to the XP Day. Manoj spotted my interest in community building and asked me to help them. I was very interested and happily joined forces with Owen and Manoj. Soon the conference planning started picking up steam. At one point, (a month before the conference) we had to figure out a way to manage funds. So we wanted to open a bank account. We realized that it would be difficult to open a bank account without having some kind of an organization. Since this was a non-profit event, KK Rajan suggested we register a non-profit society and open a bank account in its name. Bhavin Javia suggested the name ASCI - Agile Software Community of India. And today we have ASCI. So what started off as a means to handle funds for a non-profit conference, today is grown into a large body of Agile enthusiasts and practitioners. Today ASCI provides a platform for people from different software organizations to come together and share their experience with Software development methodologies. ASCI’s focus is Agile and related light weight methodologies/philosophies. ASCI evangelizes itself to be a facilitating body which fosters and innovates lightweight methodologies in software development in India.
agilecollab : How can one become a member of ASCI?
Naresh Jain : We believe in keeping it simple and lean. Details : http://agileindia.org/membership.htm
agilecollab : What are the plans for coming year and ahead for ASCI?
Naresh Jain : While Agile is got into mainstream, there are a huge number of organizations in India who want to adopt Agile. So the focus of ASCI has shifted from Agile awareness to Agile adoption. ASCI’s model to achieve this has mainly been through conference and user groups. We have consciously not got into training and certification. And hope we’ll never get into it. ASCI has just formed a new board and I think this board will take ASCI to the next level.
agilecollab : How have last few years been in adoption of Agile principles and practices in India?
Naresh Jain : There has been an exponential growth. In 2004, there were hardly any companies that were aware of Agile. Today most of the big companies have piloted at least a few projects using Agile and some companies are using Agile principles and practices in majority of their projects. Smaller companies have found it easy to adopt agile while the big CMM companies are getting there.
agilecollab : Do you think the motivation for adopting Agile is more in product companies than IT Services companies?
Naresh Jain : I don’t really have data to say whether its more in product companies or in services companies. There are a large number of companies in both categories that are adopting Agile. In the product space, time to market and improving efficiency/ productivity is driving the adoption. In other words, the motivation is mostly internal. While in the services space, competitive advantage and customer/counterpart pressure is really driving the adoption. In other words, the motivation is mostly external.
agilecollab : Is there a regional bias in India with regards to Agile adoption, with South leading way over North?
Naresh Jain : Based on my interaction with various companies all over India, Bangalore has the highest number of companies practicing Agile. Also in terms of their experience, Bangalore seems to have lot more companies with pretty good understanding of Agile. Having said that, companies in Pune, Mumbai, Hyderabad, Chennai, NCR, Chandigarh, etc are catching up big time. But, I think Bangalore does have the first starter advantage.
agilecollab : According to you, which of Agile frameworks fits better in Indian context?
Naresh Jain : In my personal experience eXtreme Programing, Crystal and Lean are the frameworks from which companies in India will really benefit. Scrum would also be important form a marketing perspective. For Ex: A services company can bid for a project saying “We have 5 certified scrum masters”!
agilecollab : What according to you are major factors which impede organizations journey towards agility?
Naresh Jain : Organization Culture and People’s attitude towards change.
agilecollab : We have started Agile Chandigarh [users can join on LinkedIn and Yahoo Groups]. It is at a nascent stage. However, it would be probably only second such group in North. What advice would you give to the group?
Naresh Jain : I’m nobody to give advice. But now that you have asked. I have 3 advices:
1. Perseverance
2. Perseverance
3. Perseverance
It takes a bloody long time for people to invest time in user groups and to value free peer-to-peer community based learning. Most people want an easy way out. Pay, sit through a class for 2 days and walk out with a certificate. Now that we have taken the first step in the right direction, I think 50% of our job is done. Also remember ASCI will live as long as such initiatives are taken by people in different parts of the country.
agilecollab : Finally, any plans to visit Chandigarh?
Naresh Jain : Not that I know of. But if you plan to organize a Agile Chandigarh 08 Conference, you can count on me to move the boxes.
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Posted on March 24th, 2008 by admin
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